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Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions


From: Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:39:24 +0100



On Mar 10, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
while i abhor the russian invasion of the ukraine, and have put my money
where my mouth is

(As an aside to others, our friends at the .UA ccTLD have recommended this as a useful place to donate: 
https://www.comebackalive.in.ua/donate  It’s providing medical support to combatants.)

i worry about the precedent of setting ourselves up as legislature, police, judge, and jury

We do this with spam, malware and phishing every day.  The people who were trying to benefit from the campaigns are 
very unhappy about it, but everyone else seems pleased with the outcome or, if anything, wants it to be even more 
effective.

...and the long term effects of centralizing such authority.

This is the Internet… when we do it right, nothing that matters is centralized.  There are dozens of spam, ddos, cp and 
malware BGP and RPZ feeds right now. Some are better-administered than others, but I wouldn’t call any of them an 
“authority,” nor do I worry about them becoming centralized.  This is no different.

who will we censor and ostracize next?  a walt kelly cartoon comes to mind.

I view it more like their rowboat… A different name every time, but not often, never more than one, and never 
remarkable enough to warrant notice by the actors.

otoh, i would likely close such meager services as i provide to russian use.

Indeed.  And I suspect the judgment of many network operators will be similar.  With a principled constraint that only 
military and propaganda networks will be included in the feed, I’m not too worried about this turning into fascism.

                                -Bill

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