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Re: The role of Internet governance in sanctions


From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 16:42:14 +0000

Bill,

I don’t understand your comment. I don’t think our statements are the same at all. 

I’m opposed to this particular description of ad-hoc “social justice” in Internet governance described in your 
proposal. It’s far too broad and open to interpretation. You, on the other hand, seem to be referring to — correct me 
if I’m wrong — sovereign countries pulling the plug on their Internet access. 

The proposal you signed doesn’t address that, that I can see. It has a slew of incredibly vague terms, such as 
“international norms”, “consensus-driven process”, “principles of non-overreach”, and “pre-defined goals”, to list just 
a few. 

Your comments seems to take this proposal as a fait accompli, to wit "I’m really happy that the document is out. Now we 
can focus on operationalization. Mailing list, web site, etc. are in the process of being set up.”

Slow your roll. This is nowhere near ready for “operationalization”, as the several comments here objecting to the 
thing testifies.

 -mel



On Mar 10, 2022, at 8:18 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody () pch net> wrote:



On Mar 10, 2022, at 4:25 PM, Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:
In my view, there is a core problematic statement in this document:
I think it is a colossal mistake to weaponize the Internet. The potential for unintended consequences is huge.

It sounds like your problem statement and ours are the same.  Pulling the plug on countries is inappropriate, because 
it has a lot of unintended consequences and harms people.

                               -Bill



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