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Re: Upstream bandwidth usage


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 19:29:31 -0500 (CDT)

It's not always something the service provider has the ability to change. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

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From: "Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 2:38:29 PM 
Subject: Re: Upstream bandwidth usage 




On 6/10/22 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Due to the demand being predominately in the downward direction, half-duplex (or effectively half-duplex) systems 
either allocate more TDMA slots or more channels to downstream, at the expense of upstream. 



Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the headroom to get to 10 at least. Marketing, of 
course, but I wonder how many support calls they got because "my internet is slow" from saturated upstream with zoom 
calls. I mean, most users have no clue about such things. 


Mike 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:46:24 PM 
Subject: Re: Upstream bandwidth usage 


On 6/9/22 1:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: 
With 430 GB versus 32 GV average down versus up usage today, according 
to your article, this is still not a case for symmetrical consumer 
bandwidth. Yes, the upstream usage increased slightly more than the 
downstream usage. But the ratio was still so big that it would take 
decades for them to join. I doubt they ever will. Consumers just don’t 
have that much days up to push yet, and probably never will. 

Also, a lot of that Usage can be explained by video conferencing 
during Covid, which has dropped off significantly already. 


If it's so tiny, why shape it aggressively? Why shouldn't I be able to 
burst to whatever is available at the moment? I would think most users 
would be happy with that. 

Mike 



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