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Re: DNS pulling BGP routes?


From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:11:51 +0900

Mark Tinka wrote:

What?

I will use my network for what I want my network to do for me. There
are no international rules about why a network must be built.

As you are seemingly requesting international legal formality,
let me point out there are "International Telecommunication
Regulations", based on which network neutrality is discussed
by ITU.

Unless they directly reach their end users, yes, of course.

So by your logic, a bank's internal network used to drive its ATM machines is not neutral because one cannot use that network for
global IP Transit?

No, of course. So?

You can't tell me that US$700 million being spent to build a
submarine cable around a continent is something to scoff at.

That cost is negligible compared to the cost to prepare
access network all over the continent, I'm afraid.

> Okay, so by your logic, "access providers" should pay CDN's for
> peering, because the CDN's have spent millions building submarine
> cables and data centres around the world to bring their service to
> the access providers. After all, why give the access providers a free
> ride either?

The essential difference is whether they are neutral or not.

> In case it's not clear, that last paragraph was sarcastic. It's 2021
> - long distance, access, backbone, metro, e.t.c. Those are boxes that
>  don't exist anymore.

Are you saying that there is no such thing as tier 1 ISPs?

                                                        Masataka Ohta


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