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Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 23:50:39 -0700



On Aug 29, 2021, at 17:41 , Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote:

John Levine wrote:

I would be astonished if ICANN had a position. For one thing, they
have no provision for dealing with competing IP registries since the
issue has never come up

As

      ICP-2: Criteria for Establishment of New Regional
      Internet Registries
      https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012-02-25-en
      2) The new RIR must demonstrate that it has the broad
      support of the LIRs (ISP community) in the proposed region

if overwhelming majority, which means there is no competition,
of LIRs in AfriNIC region request to abandon AfriNIC and to
have an alternate RIR, ICANN should honor the request.

ICANN _MIGHT_ be able (under ICP-2) to honor the request to accredit
a new RIR if one is created. ICANN has no authority under ICP-2 to do
anything about any RIR once it is accredited. There is no process for
revoking an RIR’s accreditation and there is no mechanism for any entity
to do so that I am aware of.

For another, they are extremely allergic to
anything that might even possibly involve them in a lawsuit.
ICANN was established to protect governance structure (including
RIRs, of course) of the Internet free from government (especially
USG) interventions. As such, ICANN is expected to work to isolate
African RIR operations from existing lawsuit.

I think you have that somewhat wrong. Regardless of what you or anyone
else may think ICANN was established for, the simple reality is that ICANN’s
only ability to engage on any of this is that granted to it by the various IANA
functions contracts from the empowered communities (IETF, NRO/ASO/RIRs,
and various Domain-Related organizations). (No, I don’t have all the exact
details spelled out correctly here, it’s almost impossible to identify them).

ICANN does not have any ability to isolate African RIR operations from an
existing lawsuit. If you think I’m wrong, please identify the authority and
mechanism by which they could possibly do so.

Owen


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