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Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation
From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 23:50:39 -0700
On Aug 29, 2021, at 17:41 , Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote: John Levine wrote:I would be astonished if ICANN had a position. For one thing, they have no provision for dealing with competing IP registries since the issue has never come upAs ICP-2: Criteria for Establishment of New Regional Internet Registries https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/new-rirs-criteria-2012-02-25-en 2) The new RIR must demonstrate that it has the broad support of the LIRs (ISP community) in the proposed region if overwhelming majority, which means there is no competition, of LIRs in AfriNIC region request to abandon AfriNIC and to have an alternate RIR, ICANN should honor the request.
ICANN _MIGHT_ be able (under ICP-2) to honor the request to accredit a new RIR if one is created. ICANN has no authority under ICP-2 to do anything about any RIR once it is accredited. There is no process for revoking an RIR’s accreditation and there is no mechanism for any entity to do so that I am aware of.
For another, they are extremely allergic to anything that might even possibly involve them in a lawsuit.ICANN was established to protect governance structure (including RIRs, of course) of the Internet free from government (especially USG) interventions. As such, ICANN is expected to work to isolate African RIR operations from existing lawsuit.
I think you have that somewhat wrong. Regardless of what you or anyone else may think ICANN was established for, the simple reality is that ICANN’s only ability to engage on any of this is that granted to it by the various IANA functions contracts from the empowered communities (IETF, NRO/ASO/RIRs, and various Domain-Related organizations). (No, I don’t have all the exact details spelled out correctly here, it’s almost impossible to identify them). ICANN does not have any ability to isolate African RIR operations from an existing lawsuit. If you think I’m wrong, please identify the authority and mechanism by which they could possibly do so. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation, (continued)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Sabri Berisha (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Tom Beecher (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Rubens Kuhl (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Sabri Berisha (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Noah (Aug 29)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation John Levine (Aug 29)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Masataka Ohta (Aug 29)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Martin Hannigan (Aug 29)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Rubens Kuhl (Aug 29)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Martin Hannigan (Aug 29)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 29)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 27)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Bill Woodcock (Aug 27)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Bryan Fields (Aug 27)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Seiden (Aug 27)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Noah (Aug 27)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mel Beckman (Aug 27)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Michael Thomas (Aug 27)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Laszlo Hanyecz (Aug 27)