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Re: alternative to voip gateways
From: Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 07:19:18 -0500
"Integrated metallic testing on the combo cards helps reduce truck rolls" I can't stress this feature enough. Being mainly a data only CLEC, we wanted to buy the cheaper, non-combo, data only DSL cards. However, Adtran, Calix, Zhone, and Nokia confirmed that without the SIP to FXS combo function, you loose the Integrated metallic testing" This means you can't test loop length (without a dsl modem trained on the other end), can't test if you have a cross, foreign voltage, etc. Yes, this can be done with a field tester, but the cost of sending a tech out to do that is much more of an expense. DSL only data ports were around $30 a port, and combo were like $50 a port from what I remember. On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 8:08 PM Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com> wrote:
On 5/11/20, Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com> wrote:On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 4:16 PM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:If POTS last mile is available, why complicate it with VoIP?Because it is cheaper and easier? It is a lot of equipment there simply does not need to be there. If you have DSL you have CPE equipment andthatCPE equipment can have FXP out for very little extra. You also savehavingfilters to separate DSL and voice.Not really cheaper, modems with VoIP tend to be a bit more pricey so that 50 odd or CPE now becomes 80-100, doubling our per port cost and what is an FXP? I think you mean FXS port.In any case, even the ILEC here is dropping analog and delivering phone services via VoIP and FXP out on the CPE. I believe because thewasnt there a hige shit stom in australia for their new national broadband network making internet ptrimary and phone secondary, a lot of aussies on forums I frequent bitch about its reliability, where even their aged copper services worked fine, not to mention prolonged outages due to storms and the bushfires they had recently, lets hope the world learns from australias mistakes and not go down that path.
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- Re: alternative to voip gateways, (continued)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Masataka Ohta (May 08)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Nick Edwards (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Baldur Norddahl (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Mike Hammett (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Baldur Norddahl (May 10)
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- Re: alternative to voip gateways Clayton Zekelman (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Mike Hammett (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Baldur Norddahl (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Mike Hammett (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Nick Edwards (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Colton Conor (May 11)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Mark Delany (May 11)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Michael Thomas (May 11)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Mark Delany (May 11)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Michael Thomas (May 11)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Nick Edwards (May 25)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Nick Edwards (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Michael Thomas (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Nick Edwards (May 10)
- Re: alternative to voip gateways Michael Thomas (May 10)