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Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions


From: TJ Trout <tj () pcguys us>
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2020 17:04:56 -0700

stop being a disrespectful little prick.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 4:52 PM Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net>
wrote:

*Rod Beck* rod.beck at unitedcablecompany.com
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wrote

I would calm down, Miles. 😃 Dark fiber networks are built and usually maintained by the same construction company 
that installed them. And a dark fiber network does not even need a single full time optical engineer. If the cable is 
damaged, then the guys who installed it will repair it. All the expertise is there.

And no, I am not an executive at a undersea cable system. i was one of Hibernia Atlantic's top salesmen during the 
early years from 2004-2011 after which I retired.


Funny thing then, given that you signed your original query as:

Roderick Beck
VP of Business Development
United Cable Companywww.unitedcablecompany.com<http://www.unitedcablecompany.com>

And following the link to United Cable Company's web site reveals:

"Your source for the world's most distinctive submarine cable assets."
And the about page says "Its mission, as a leading telecom consulting
company, is to represent the world’s most distinctive submarine and
terrestrial cable assets."

Your original query asked:

Am I wrong in believing that there should be a way of lighting a single pair in the cable and then monitoring it for 
signal disruption? It is not a perfect solution, but arguably better than learning that the cable has been damaged 
from an irate customer.

In a followup message you say:

Just to clarify, this is a dark fiber network already built and will be repaired by the construction company that 
built it. I just a system to inform them as soon as the fibers are damaged.

So... color me confused about who you are, who you represent, what you're
trying to accomplish, what you're asking, and, perhaps, why you don't
already know the answer to your question, or have someone internal to your
organization who already knows.

Miles Fidelman

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

Theory is when you know everything but nothing works.
Practice is when everything works but no one knows why.
In our lab, theory and practice are combined:
nothing works and no one knows why.  ... unknown



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