Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions

[Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>]

Exactly. Thanks very much , Roel.

Just to clarify, this is a dark fiber network already built and will be repaired by the construction company that built 
it. I just a system to inform them as soon as the fibers are damaged.

It is definitely not a plane and does not need a pilot. 🙂

Best,

Roderick.



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From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:25 PM
To: Roel Parijs <roel.parijs () gmail com>
Cc: nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>; Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
Subject: Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions

Thank you for the most useful comment on the thread so far!

If I'm buying dark fiber, I'm expecting it to be a bunch of spliced glass from end to end. Maybe (maybe!) a connector 
or two for patching somewhere. However, something like this would be useful to sell "managed" dark fiber. You still get 
the strand, but I add these boxes (or something like them) to detect and locate failures non-intrusively.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roel Parijs" <roel.parijs () gmail com>
To: "Rod Beck" <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 1:44:39 PM
Subject: Re: Outsourced NOC Solutions


Hello,


Yes, you can install a permanent OTDR meter on the fiber.


Exfo used to have them but a very cost effective solution which we have been selling for years is the Adva ALM.
https://www.adva.com/en/products/network-infrastructure-assurance/alm

You can even monitor the actual customer fiber, since it uses wavelength 1650nm which does not interfere with Grey / 
CWDM / DWDM signals.
Up to 64 fibers per unit, with a maximum distance of 160km and it can even monitor PON networks behind the splitters.
The best part for troubleshooting is that it integrates with existing GIS systems which show you the location of the 
suspected cut on a map.


Regards
Roel


On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 8:25 PM Rod Beck < rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com > wrote:




Hi,



My colleague and I may be running a new dark fiber network in the Northeast.



We need an outsourced NOC to monitor for fiber cuts and serve as a contact point for customers.



Am I wrong in believing that there should be a way of lighting a single pair in the cable and then monitoring it for 
signal disruption? It is not a perfect solution, but arguably better than learning that the cable has been damaged from 
an irate customer.



Best to take any replies off the message board.



Thanks.



Regards,



Roderick.













Roderick Beck VP of Business Development

United Cable Company

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New York City & Budapest


rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com

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