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Re: power to the internet
From: Brandon Butterworth <brandon () rd bbc co uk>
Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2019 23:37:25 +0000
On Thu Dec 26, 2019 at 11:20:01AM -0800, Michael Thomas wrote:
I just looked up Telsa's battery packs and they seem to be between 60-100kwh. Our daily use is about 30kwh in the fall, so it's only 2-3 days. Admittedly we can turn off the hot tub, water heater, etc to stretch it out. And of course, that means that you can't drive it... The one thing that would be for everybody's good is using them during peak hours. If you work normal hours, then that only gets part of the peak load, unfortunately.
Many with a tesla (or three) are likely to get some local PV/wind generation to charge them (more so if the outages become a regular event). Then the base load doesn't matter and they can still drive some of them while the others charge. Some may just use their EV as a battery that has other uses when the power isn't out and not care they can't use it for both. There are plenty of projects working on this distributed storage/generation model.
But of course this has nothing to do with the network power problem. I assume they won't be parking a Tesla next to a CMTS headend.
Proliferation of local generation and storage may have a lot of impact on network expectations. Last mile that assumes when the cab loses power then the consumers have too will have to update their assumptions. The consumers running on local power are able to carry on as normal and expect network to carry on too. Architectures with lots of distributed small active plant may be harder hit trying to add generation than those with passive plant and few active nodes. brandon
Current thread:
- Re: power to the internet, (continued)
- Re: power to the internet Michael Thomas (Dec 27)
- Re: power to the internet Jason Wilson (Dec 27)
- Re: power to the internet Michael Thomas (Dec 25)
- RE: power to the internet Don Gould (Dec 25)
- Re: power to the internet Joe Maimon (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Ben Cannon (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Michael Thomas (Dec 26)
- RE: power to the internet Keith Medcalf (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Howard Leadmon (Dec 30)
- Re: power to the internet John Lightfoot (Dec 30)
- Re: power to the internet Joe Maimon (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Brandon Butterworth (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Don Gould (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Baldur Norddahl (Dec 28)
- Re: power to the internet Dan Hollis (Dec 28)
- Re: power to the internet Tom Beecher (Dec 28)
- Re: power to the internet Ben Cannon (Dec 28)
- Re: power to the internet Joe Maimon (Dec 28)
- Re: power to the internet Michael Thomas (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Stephen Satchell (Dec 26)
- Re: power to the internet Michael Thomas (Dec 26)