Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>]

RSA (https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/agreements/rsa.pdf) clearly state that the services are subject to the terms 
and conditions stated in the policy manual.

 

There is explicit text in case of lack of payment. Not so clear what to do if there is a policy violation, but it looks 
like at a minimum, you will not get further services neither further resources.

 

Bylaws (https://www.arin.net/about/corporate/bylaws/#bylaws-of-american-registry-for-internet-numbers-ltd) don’t 
explicitly talk about the obligations of members. This may be related to US law, that you don’t need to explicitly say 
that behavior against other members is forbidden. In some countries, it is evident that if a member of an association 
is not following the rules (policies) or is acting against the rights of other members, it can be expelled.

 

As I said before, we may need another policy proposal to stated what to do.

 

Why a different policy proposal? Because the same policy section must be related to other policy violations (may be 
with warnings in case of policy violations and resource recovery only in extreme cases or repetitive misbehavior – this 
is the case in RIPE), if that’s not clear already in the bylaws, US laws, or RSA.

 

For me, it is obvious that an association MUST protect members about *any* misbehavior of other members. 


Regards,

Jordi

 

 

 

El 27/4/19 0:58, "NANOG en nombre de William Herrin" <nanog-bounces () nanog org en nombre de bill () herrin us> 
escribió:

 

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 2:36 PM Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org> wrote:

Maybe I missed it in the proposal, but I don't see that it actually says 
what ARIN will do other than produce a report "Yep, our expert panel says 
this is hijacked.".  What's the expected result (other than the report)? 
i.e. What action is ARIN expected to take after it's determined a route 
advertisement is a hijacking that will make a difference?

 

Tough question! If the author's petition succeeds so he's not cut off at the knees by the Advisory Council's 
out-of-scope ruling, I'll look forward to hearing how he answers.

 

Regards,

Bill Herrin

 

 

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