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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:14:34 -0500 (CDT)
Getting people to show up can be a challenge. I've been asked by members of two midwestern IXes to come to their markets because their existing donation-supported loose and easy IX isn't really doing anything for them. Not arguing models, arguing that what should matter is results. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Mattinen" <sethm () rollernet us> To: nanog () nanog org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:14:21 PM Subject: Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? On 6/15/16 05:37, Mike Hammett wrote:
I agree that the SIX is a fine organization, but the framework of the organization has little to do with the members getting screwed over. A non-profit donation-based IX that doesn't produce results could be screwing its "customers" over more than a MRC-based for-profit IX that does produce.
An IX just needs to "produce" a layer 2 peering fabric. That's not a tall order to get results from. Anything beyond that is extra fluff. Some people want to pay more for the fluff, some don't. ~Seth
Current thread:
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Owen DeLong (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Peter Beckman (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Rich Kulawiec (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Paras Jha (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Arnold Nipper (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Bill Woodcock (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Ca By (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Seth Mattinen (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Martin Hannigan (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Leslie (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Martin Hannigan (Jun 15)