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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:14:34 -0500 (CDT)

Getting people to show up can be a challenge. I've been asked by members of two midwestern IXes to come to their 
markets because their existing donation-supported loose and easy IX isn't really doing anything for them. Not arguing 
models, arguing that what should matter is results. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Seth Mattinen" <sethm () rollernet us> 
To: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 2:14:21 PM 
Subject: Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? 

On 6/15/16 05:37, Mike Hammett wrote: 
I agree that the SIX is a fine organization, but the framework of the organization has little to do with the members 
getting screwed over. A non-profit donation-based IX that doesn't produce results could be screwing its "customers" 
over more than a MRC-based for-profit IX that does produce. 


An IX just needs to "produce" a layer 2 peering fabric. That's not a 
tall order to get results from. Anything beyond that is extra fluff. 
Some people want to pay more for the fluff, some don't. 

~Seth 


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