Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?

[Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Matt Peterson wrote:

> As a community, how do we provide constructive criticism to industry 
> suppliers (that may also be fellow competitors, members, and/or 
> suppliers)? For example, router vendors are routinely compared without 
> specific names mentioned (say in the case of a unpublished 
> vulnerability) - how is a service provider any different?

I think we should have the discussion in a constructive manner.

What do we want the IXPs to do? What do we want the RIRs to do? What do we 
want the ccTLDs to do? What do we want IANA, ISOC, IETF etc to do?

Right now they're doing things that they see as "good for the community", 
and not only spending money on producing their own service. They do 
outreach because not everybody knows about every service available. They 
hire community members and send them to conferences (IGF for instance) to 
try to achieve that governments hear from us. They spend money on 
research. They might spend money on acilliary services such as root/ccTLD 
name servers or NTP servers on the IXP.

When asking community what should be done, a wide range of different 
answers are given.

I don't have a problem having this discussion. I don't see it as "vendor 
bashing" but instead as someone who has an opinion on how things are done 
today.

Question is, how can it be had in a constructive manner?

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se