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Re: Handling of Abuse Complaints


From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 14:17:53 -0400

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Steve Atkins <steve () blighty com> wrote:
Unless your abuse / security desk is staffed by
lawyers it's probably better to avoid words like
"criminal" and "unlawfully" altogether

Not really an ambiguous situation IMHO, but whatever floats your boat.

Bear in mind, though, that if you reasonably suspect your company is
caught up in a specific violation of the law and you fail to validate
and/or end the violation, your inaction brings liability on the
company. Even though you're not a lawyer.

That's true from the highest executive to the lowest janitor.


and stick to "in violation of our ToS".

This I would avoid. A ToS is a contract. Contracts are open to
negotiation. The law is not. If you don't want to say "unlawfully
attack," then stop at "attack."


On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo () heliacal net> wrote:
I know this is against the popular religion here but how is this abuse on
the part of your customer?  Google, Level3 and many others also run open
resolvers, because they're useful services. This is why we can't have nice
things.

Google mitigates the attack vector with rate limiting through custom
software. I would venture a guess that Jason's customer is not that
sophisticated.

Regards,
Bill Herrin





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