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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
From: joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:14:01 -0800
On 3/1/15 1:26 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
It was the combination of asymmetric, no or few IPs (and NAT), and bandwidth caps.let's not rewrite history here: IPv4 address scarcity has been a thing since the very early 1990s. Otherwise why would cidr have been created?CIDR had nothing to do with address scarcity. CIDR was invented for routing table slot scarcity in Cisco AGS hardware of the era.
nope sorry, both are justifications... https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1519#page-6 There are not according to 1993 era RFC's, enough class B and A networks to go around... (there still aren't) We were around then and we got the patch.
Routers running out of BGP table space wasn’t just a fear at the time, it was a real problem on a number of networks, including, but not limited to SPRINT and MCI who were the big dogs in the fight at the time.
your cisco ags+ wasn't going to make it over the hump.
NAT, OTOH, is an address conservation mechanism which has unfortunately of late been mistaken for a security tool. If only people would realize how much NAT negatively impacts security, manageability, etc. Owen
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