Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

[Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>]

/em shrug

I can't help it if you don't like real world data.
On Mar 3, 2015 2:25 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs () world std com> wrote:

> Ok, then I no longer have any confidence that I understand what you
> were asserting.
>
> From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
> > Odd how the graphing for the top 1000 Usenet servers showed exactly the
> > pattern I predicted.
> > On Mar 2, 2015 3:46 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs () world std com> wrote:
> >
> > >  > Anything based on NNTP would be extremely asymmetric without
> significant
> > >  > changes to the protocol or human behavior.
> > >  >
> > >  > We ran significant Usenet servers with binaries for nearly 20 years
> and
> > >  > without for another 5 and the servers' traffic was heavily
> asymmetric.
> > >  > On Mar 1, 2015 9:11 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman () meetinghouse net
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > With all due respect it's like people act purposely obtuse just to
> > > argue.
> > >
> > > If you're a Usenet server (and most likely client) then it'll be
> > > somewhat symmetric.
> > >
> > > Depending on how many nodes you serve the bias could easily be towards
> > > upload bandwidth as msgs come in once (ideally) but you flood them to
> > > all the other servers you serve once per server, the entire traffic
> > > goes out multiple times, plus or minus various optimizations like
> > > "already have that msg" oh for the love of all that is good and holy
> > > do I have to type the entire NNTP protocol spec in here just to make
> > > sure there isn't some microscopic crack of light someone can use to
> > > misinterpret and/or pick nits about???
> > >
> > > What was the original question because I think this has degenerated
> > > into just argumentativeness, we're on the verge of spelling and
> > > grammar error flames.
> > >
> > > I don't know how anyone who claims to have run Usenet servers couldn't
> > > know all this, is it just trolling?
> > >
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