Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network setup?

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

My equipment that can't do 5.4 with the latest stable or beta firmware says
you can't. Hopefully we get 5.1 "soon". :)

Josh Luthman
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On Jun 19, 2015 11:36 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net> wrote:

> FCC Cert claims different.
>
> :)
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> *To: *"Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net>
> *Cc: *"NANOG list" <nanog () nanog org>, "Ray Soucy" <rps () maine edu>
> *Sent: *Friday, June 19, 2015 9:16:37 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network
> setup?
>
> Uhm he's not wrong...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 19, 2015 9:13 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net> wrote:
>
> > > > > The thing you need to watch out for with Ubiquiti is that they don't
> > support DFS, so the entire U-NII-2 channel space is off limits for 5 GHz.
> >
> > Huh ????
> >
> > Please verify your facts before making blanket statements which are not
> > accurate ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ray Soucy" <rps () maine edu>
> > > To: "Sina Owolabi" <notify.sina () gmail com>
> > > Cc: "nanog () nanog org list" <nanog () nanog org>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:07:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network
> > setup?
> > > I know you don't want to hear this answer because of cost but I've had
> > good
> > > luck with Cisco for very high density (about 1,000 clients in a packed
> > > auditorium actively using the network as they follow along with the
> > > presenter).
> > >
> > > The thing you need to watch out for with Ubiquiti is that they don't
> > > support DFS, so the entire U-NII-2 channel space is off limits for 5
> > GHz.
> > > That's pretty significant because you're limited to 9 x 20 MHz channels
> > or
> > > 4 x 40 MHz channels.  Keeping the power level down and creating small
> > cells
> > > is essential for high density, so with less channels your hands are
> > really
> > > tied in that case.  Also, avoid the Zero Handoff marketing nonsense they
> > > advertise; I'm sure it can work great for a low client residential area
> > but
> > > it requires all APs to share a single channel and depends upon
> > coordinating
> > > only one active transmitter at a time, so it simply won't scale.
> > >
> > > I don't have experience with other vendors at large scale or high
> > density.
> > > I don't think what you're talking about is really high density anymore
> > > though.  That's just normal coverage.  Wireless is a lot more
> > complicated
> > > than selecting a vendor, though.  If you know what you're doing even
> > > Ubiquiti could work decently, but if you don't even a Cisco solution
> > won't
> > > save you.  You really need to be on top of surveying correctly and
> > having
> > > appropriate AP placement and channel distribution.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Sina Owolabi <notify.sina () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > We are profiling equipment and design for an expected high user
> > density
> > > > network of multiple, close nit, residential/hostel units. Its going
> > to be
> > > > 8-10 buildings with possibly a over 1000 users at any given time.
> > > > We are looking at Ruckus and Ubiquiti as options to get over the high
> > > > number of devices we are definitely going to encounter.
> > > >
> > > > How did you do it, and what would you advise for product and layout?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ray Patrick Soucy
> > > Network Engineer
> > > University of Maine System
> > >
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> > >
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