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Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...
From: Stephen Satchell <list () satchell net>
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 22:34:56 -0700
On 06/08/2015 07:34 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
On Jun 8, 2015 10:11 PM, "Shane Ronan" <shane () ronan-online com> wrote:Certs have ruined the industry.Certs have made the industry more interesting. After all, without certs, we'd have less stupid to point at and laugh (or scream). And HR screeners would need to know something about the position they're screening.
I think that some people here don't realize just who benefits from vendor-specific certifications. It's the *vendors*. It's why companies like Microsoft, Red Hat, Cisco, Juniper, &c spend the money to develop certification programs: to ensure there are a pool of people who can effectively use [some of] their products without having to call technical support all the time.
Certification programs are expensive, time- and resource-intensive, and a pain to keep up to date as products mature and grow. The job is even more of a pain when large companies like Cisco end up buying other companies to add their products to the Cisco line to allow customers to solve particular problems and "stay in the family".
It's like a tech business wanting to locate in places like San Jose, Cambridge, or Autin...because that's where they can find workers ready to slot into their game. Vendors like to have a large enough certified people so that management can feel comfortable buying vendor hardware and software -- it reduces risk for both customer *and* vendor.
Reduced risks means more profits. For everyone.
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- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies..., (continued)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Stephen Satchell (Jun 06)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Jay Ashworth (Jun 07)
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- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Larry Sheldon (Jun 06)
- RE: eBay is looking for network heavies... Joshua Riesenweber (Jun 07)
- RE: eBay is looking for network heavies... shawn wilson (Jun 07)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Stephen Satchell (Jun 07)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Scott Morris (Jun 07)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Jimmy Hess (Jun 07)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Shane Ronan (Jun 08)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... shawn wilson (Jun 08)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Stephen Satchell (Jun 08)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... ryanL (Jun 08)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Sabri Berisha (Jun 08)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Jay Ashworth (Jun 10)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... goemon (Jun 10)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Lyndon Nerenberg (Jun 10)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Stephen Satchell (Jun 10)
- Nobody is looking for serious candidates Lyndon Nerenberg (Jun 10)
- Re: eBay is looking for network heavies... Peter Kristolaitis (Jun 07)
- Re: certification (was: eBay is looking for network heavies...) Randy Bush (Jun 07)
- Re: certification (was: eBay is looking for network heavies...) Andrew Latham (Jun 07)