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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:58:05 -0800


On Feb 27, 2015, at 08:04 , Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:

I'd think they'd be better off with some jujitsu, along the lines of:

"We've always practiced network neutrality, not like some of our competitors, this won't effect us at all and may 
enforce some good business practices on others”

I think they’d be pretty hard pressed to say this with a straight face. Even if they could, anyone who is paying 
attention would know better.

(As far as I can tell, Verizon has not played games with favoring their own content - for all intents and purposes, 
they operate FIOS as a common carrier - no funny throttling, no usage caps, etc.)

Verizon has been every bit as much involved in the let’s tax the big content providers for all we can games as any of 
the other eyeball providers.

I'm surprised they weren't a bit more vocal on the OTHER FCC decision of the day - preempting some state restrictions 
on municipal broadband builds - Verizon has been very active in pushing state laws to kill muni networks (even in 
places where they have no intention of building out).

They prefer to do this in ways the public is less likely to notice what they are doing. The last thing they want is a 
big public backlash against their backroom dealings with lawmakers on this matter. The fact that the president called 
them out on it publicly is pretty much game over for that tactic anyway.

Owen


Miles Fidelman

Scott Fisher wrote:
I am not arguing that they have a valid complaint. I just think their
method of doing so is a bit childish. It does get the point across,
just not in the method I respect. Just my opinion though.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Rob McEwen <rob () invaluement com> wrote:
Scott Fisher,

I think Verizon's statement was brilliant, and entirely appropriate. Some
people are going to have a hard time discovering that being in favor of
Obama's version of "net neutrality"... will soon be just about as cool as
having supported SOPA.

btw - does anyone know if that thick book of regulations, you know... those
hundreds of pages we weren't allowed to see before the vote... anyone know
if that is available to the public now? If so, where?

Rob McEwen



On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Scott Fisher <littlefishguy () gmail com>
wrote:
Funny, but in my honest opinion, unprofessional. Poor PR.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon () cox net>
wrote:

http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet





-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra


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