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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality


From: "Stephen R. Carter" <stephen.carter () gltgc org>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:07:18 +0000

The funniest thing about Verizon complaining about Title II, is that they
used Title II to roll out their FIOS FTTP.

I really am unsure of what they expected the outcome to be, and further
proves the point of how big of a mess ISPĀ¹s in this country are.

Stephen Carter | IT Systems Administrator  | Gun Lake Tribal Gaming
Commission
1123 129th Avenue, Wayland, MI 49348
Phone 269.792.1773 







On 2/27/15, 11:04 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:

I'd think they'd be better off with some jujitsu, along the lines of:

"We've always practiced network neutrality, not like some of our
competitors, this won't effect us at all and may enforce some good
business practices on others"

(As far as I can tell, Verizon has not played games with favoring their
own content - for all intents and purposes, they operate FIOS as a
common carrier - no funny throttling, no usage caps, etc.)

I'm surprised they weren't a bit more vocal on the OTHER FCC decision of
the day - preempting some state restrictions on municipal broadband
builds - Verizon has been very active in pushing state laws to kill muni
networks (even in places where they have no intention of building out).

Miles Fidelman

Scott Fisher wrote:
I am not arguing that they have a valid complaint. I just think their
method of doing so is a bit childish. It does get the point across,
just not in the method I respect. Just my opinion though.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Rob McEwen <rob () invaluement com> wrote:
Scott Fisher,

I think Verizon's statement was brilliant, and entirely appropriate.
Some
people are going to have a hard time discovering that being in favor of
Obama's version of "net neutrality"... will soon be just about as cool
as
having supported SOPA.

btw - does anyone know if that thick book of regulations, you know...
those
hundreds of pages we weren't allowed to see before the vote... anyone
know
if that is available to the public now? If so, where?

Rob McEwen



On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Scott Fisher <littlefishguy () gmail com>
wrote:
Funny, but in my honest opinion, unprofessional. Poor PR.

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon () cox net>
wrote:


http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-mov
e-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet





-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra



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