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Re: upstream support for flowspec


From: Job Snijders <job () instituut net>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:19:25 +0200

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 03:12:29PM -0400, Daniel Corbe wrote:

a) you're paying less, as you're not receiving the traffic

This ventures into the realm of an operator doing something responsible
to protect me vs routing me unwanted traffic and going "lol, bill."

If you want to start playing that game, I'm happy to pay more per mbit
of traffic if you're happy to guarantee me that you won't route me
traffic that I'm expressly uninterested in.

Would you be willing to pay for the traffic _not_ delivered to you
because of customer-pushed ACLs? If so, that would take the argument
away "because we filter we can't bill". Would you be willing to pay a
premium to be able to do so? Is it worth a premium to insert ACLs in
real time in the upstream's network or is a 2 hour delay acceptable?
what about 5 minute delay? 

Aside from practical issues with flowspec as Ytti mentioned already, I
don't think the market has yet figured out how stuff like this should
work and become cost-effective.

Kind regards,

Job


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