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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)


From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 13:22:21 -0700

Scott Helms wrote:
I think you will, all of those things have been around for a long time (well, except for pervasive video calls, which I think is vapor) and none generate the kind of traffic it takes to congest a decent link. Most of the DOCSIS systems I've worked with are running at least 6 mbps upstreams and many are well into the double digits. My current connection (tested this morning) is about 22 mbps.

Um, no it's not vapor. Webrtc is quite real, and the barrier to implementation
for any random web site is weeks, not years as was the case before.

I just saw this that you wrote:

>        1)  Very few consumers are walking around with a HD or 4K camera today.

In the US, we just surpassed 1/2 of the population who have that capability, iirc. They
call them phones nowadays.

Mike


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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com <mailto:mike () mtcc com>> wrote:

    Scott Helms wrote:

        Mike,

        In my experience you're not alone, just in a really tiny group.
         As I said I have direct eyeballs on ~500k devices and the
        ability to see another 10 million anytime I want and the
        percentage of people who cap their upstream in both of those
        sample groups for more than 15 minutes (over the last 3 years)
        is about 0.2%.  Interestingly if a customer does it once they
        have about a 70% chance of doing it regularly.


    Well, given Sling, Dropbox, iCloud, pervasive video calls (you have
    heard about webrtc, yes?
    24/7 babycams!), youtube, etc, etc, I won't be a "tiny group" for long.

    Mike




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