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Re: Observations of an Internet Middleman (Level3)


From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 15:50:24 -0400

Mike,

In my experience you're not alone, just in a really tiny group.  As I said
I have direct eyeballs on ~500k devices and the ability to see another 10
million anytime I want and the percentage of people who cap their upstream
in both of those sample groups for more than 15 minutes (over the last 3
years) is about 0.2%.  Interestingly if a customer does it once they have
about a 70% chance of doing it regularly.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
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On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:

Scott Helms wrote:

Michael,

No, its not too much to ask and any end user who has that kind of
requirement can order a business service to get symmetrical service but the
reality is that symmetrical service costs more and the vast majority of
customers don't use the upstream capacity they have today.  I have personal
insight into about half a million devices and the percentage of people who
bump up against their upstream rate is less than 0.2%.  I have the ability
to get data on another 10 million and the last time I checked their rates
were similar.


I've just been on the losing end of yet another piece of why crappy
upstream
bandwidth sucks: Mavericks seems to have decided that my other half's
imovie
library really, really ought to be uploaded to iCloud (without asking,
ftw).

I can and should be pissed at Apple for doing such a wrongheaded thing, but
the fact is that my upstream bandwidth was saturated for hours and days
and it
was extremely difficult to figure out why. I doubt I'm alone.

Better upstream bandwidth would have at least made the pain period shorter.

Mike



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