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Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post
From: Jack Bates <jbates () paradoxnetworks net>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 10:34:04 -0500
On 4/28/2014 9:18 AM, Phil Bedard wrote:
Yeah. It's a scam. Comcast can't do balanced peering. Their customers are not symmetrical.People seem to forget what Comcast is doing is nothing new. People have been paying for unbalanced peering for as long as peering has been around. It's a little different because Netflix doesn't have an end network customer to bill to recoup those charges, they have customers on someone else's network.
Netflix is happy to assist with caching. The thing is, Comcast doesn't care about that. What they care about is that their last mile is getting saturated and they have to pay money to upgrade it. Costs are being shoved onto netflix and similar to justify that.It's not like all broadband providers are anti-Netflix, some are even starting to include NF as an app on their STB. There are also many who do peer with Netflix settlement-free even with very unbalanced ratios. The key in the future is moving the bandwidth closer to the users, and we will see more edge caching exist either within the broadband provider facilities or at more localized 3rd party datacenters.
This is compared to the small ISP who is just happy to get a peering or cache to save money only on their transit fees.
Jack
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Hugo Slabbert (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 28)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Phil Bedard (Apr 28)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they couldenshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Hugo Slabbert (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they couldenshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Justin M. Streiner (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Niels Bakker (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Phil Bedard (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jay Ashworth (Apr 27)
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