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Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 18:47:18 -0400
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Lee Howard <Lee () asgard org> wrote:
Some operators want NAT. Some don't. There are loud voices on both sides. Consensus seems slightly against.
Hi Lee, Some operators want NAT. That's it. End of discussion. This isn't a consensus question. Some operators want NAT. Period. Full stop. They'll hold off deploying and when IPv6 is sufficiently valuable, they'll pay someone to give them NAT. Regardless of whether the consensus of the IETF approves. These are the folks who made Gauntlet and its transparent proxies the #1 firewall product back during the bubble. They don't see the Internet the way you do. And if there are more of them than you think, IPv6 won't achieve sufficient value, won't reach critical mass. Then you'll really REALLY be stuck with NAT. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls, (continued)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Lee Howard (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Matt Palmer (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Gary Buhrmaster (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Eugeniu Patrascu (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Matthew Kaufman (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Eugeniu Patrascu (Apr 19)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls William Herrin (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls William Herrin (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Jimmy Hess (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Lee Howard (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls William Herrin (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls George Herbert (Apr 18)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Lee Howard (Apr 21)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls George Herbert (Apr 21)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Brandon Ross (Apr 17)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Matthew Kaufman (Apr 17)
- Re: Requirements for IPv6 Firewalls Timothy Morizot (Apr 17)
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