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Re: routing table go boom (was: Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification)
From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:29:46 -0400
On Mar 19, 2013, at 4:48 PM, David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:
Patrick, On Mar 19, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:Which is all just a fancy way of saying you can't fix people being idiots by changing a protocol, or hardware, or ... well, anything.One of the advantages I see in LISP(-like) solutions is that it allows multi-homing without having to do BGP...
What i've observed over the years is many of the reasons people use BGP and PI space is to make it easier to change internet providers. Much of this originally was due to everything being hardcoded, long dns caches and TTLs, etc.. With the exception of a few devices (eg: site-to-site VPN, etc..) these are a lot easier to handle than they were 15 years ago. I recall renumbering two different dns servers at one point, and we would always get something weird happening where the old domain/IP would come up with someones new registration. The process is mature, and I suspect many of the issues could be mitigated. Large datacenters now trust and are renumbered with DHCP. Installation of hosts happens quickly. moving of services happens quickly. The challenge is the people who are not there yet. - jared
Current thread:
- Re: routing table go boom, (continued)
- Re: routing table go boom Jared Mauch (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Jared Mauch (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Randy Bush (Mar 21)
- Re: routing table go boom Brielle Bruns (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Masataka Ohta (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom William Herrin (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Masataka Ohta (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Luigi Iannone (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Luigi Iannone (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Luigi Iannone (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom (was: Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification) Jared Mauch (Mar 20)
- Re: routing table go boom Doug Barton (Mar 19)
- Re: routing table go boom William Herrin (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification David Conrad (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification Christopher Morrow (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification David Conrad (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification Christopher Morrow (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification Doug Barton (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification Patrick W. Gilmore (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification David Conrad (Mar 19)
- Re: [c-nsp] DNS amplification Leo Bicknell (Mar 19)