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Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:30:14 +0900
Edward Dore wrote:
Sadly, it is impossible to say FTTC not "fiber optic broadband", because it is "broadband" (at least with today's access speed) with "fiber optic".Then why would you not also consider bog standard ADSL to also
> be "fibre optic"? Because I think "fiber optic broadband" implies access and ADSL is no fiber optic broadband access, unless you have FTTC with not VDSL but ADSL. But, feel free to have your own definition, which may or may not be legally challenged by people having common sense.
With BT/OpenReach's FTTC and FTTP there's no difference in
> terms of layer 1 unbundling - it's impossible with either as > they are both shared mediums aggregated before the exchange. Both of them sucks badly, indeed.
There is also an "FTTP on-demenad" option where if you are in
> a FTTC area then you basically pay for BT/OpenReach to extend > the fibre to your property and provide the FTTP service. This > is expensive though as you foot all of the excess construction > charges. Apparently the average cost is going to be around GBP > 1500. I changed your pond sign in windows 1252 encoding (even though your improperly configured mailer says it ISO-8859-1) to GBP. I think 1500 GBP is too high as a cost to have fiber between a cabinet and your premise. Considering that cost of SS is almost identical to POTS, the reasonable cost should be GBP 500 or so. Is it a result of BT monopoly or can there be some competition possible to choose an entity to install the fiber from multiple independent entities?
In either case, OpenReach are required to provide "open" access at the exchange to any companies wishing to make use of
> the local infrastructure and provide competing services to BT. The problem is on the density of the exchanges. The exchanges at every CO with L1 unbundling is, seemingly, most competitive against BT. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?, (continued)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Warren Bailey (Feb 13)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 14)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Chris Hindy (Feb 14)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Edward Dore (Feb 15)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Owen DeLong (Feb 15)
- Can the L1 provider offer L2 services? Jay Ashworth (Feb 15)
- Re: Can the L1 provider offer L2 services? Blake Dunlap (Feb 15)
- Re: Can the L1 provider offer L2 services? Mikael Abrahamsson (Feb 15)
- Re: Can the L1 provider offer L2 services? Owen DeLong (Feb 15)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Edward Dore (Feb 16)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 16)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Edward Dore (Feb 16)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 11)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Warren Bailey (Feb 11)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Stephen Sprunk (Feb 11)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Warren Bailey (Feb 11)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Warren Bailey (Feb 11)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 12)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 11)
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- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Scott Helms (Feb 03)
- Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2? Masataka Ohta (Feb 04)