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Re: Can the L1 provider offer L2 services?
From: Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:19:58 -0600
I don't know, I see FCFS as a bad constraint in a lot of situations... Rather just see true separation between conduit and carrier and not have to worry about it. -Blake On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>With BT/OpenReach's FTTC and FTTP there's no difference in terms of layer 1 unbundling - it's impossible with either as they are both shared mediums aggregated before the exchange.Which is a classic example of why I say the L1 provider must not be allowed to participate in or act as a related party to the L2+ providers.Submitted: you're saying, Owen, that L2+ providers should not be able to own the L1. I agree with that, and the case in point example is here: http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2010/03/15/tech_tt_fiber_fios.cnnmoney/ That's orthogonal to the question as we discussed it before, though, which is what I've adjusted the title to here: I don't see that there is a bar to competition if a *municipal* L1 provider offers L2 service, as long as they offer that service to all comers, at the same, published, cost-recovery rates, including themselves. Arguments can be made about "whose tickets take priority" and such, but those seem easy to hand: FCFS. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA #natog +1 727 647 1274
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