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Re: guys != gender neutral
From: JC Dill <jcdill.lists () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:36:03 -0700
On 27/09/12 11:10 AM, Jo Rhett wrote:
Or when actually referring to persons of mixed gender, here's a quote from something I posted in a private forum (my own journal) which is safe for export:Because frankly, we're all in this together and honestly everyone loves the competition. The guys I race with often come find me afterwards and tell me where they got past me, or ask me how I kept passing them. The really fast girls rarely want more than a beer to go out on the track and give you a detailed breakdown on what you are doing wrong. We all help each other.In this situation I'm leaving it up the reader to grasp that I'm not saying that the girls are all faster than the boys, but I believe it's understood in context as the topic was about how peers help each other out.
It's NOT helping to equivocate "guys" and "girls"! Guys and gals = equivalent Boys and girls = equivalent Guys and girls != equivalentAll the TV shows that refer to female contestants as "girls" are not helping when they (universally) refer to the males as "guys". Unless you refer to the male contestants (on TV) or team members (at work) as "boys" you shouldn't be using the word "girls" to refer to the females.
I really wish that english had better pronouns for this.
I really wish folks would dig a bit deeper into the thesaurus to find appropriate words. One can use a variety of gender neutral words with some simple re-writing. Remember, it's perfectly OK to employ singular "they" as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they jc
Current thread:
- RE: guys != gender neutral, (continued)
- RE: guys != gender neutral Eric Wieling (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Landon Stewart (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Jethro R Binks (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Larry Stites (Sep 27)
- RE: guys != gender neutral Lorell Hathcock (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Aled Morris (Sep 28)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Brian Henson (Sep 28)
- RE: guys != gender neutral joseph . snyder (Sep 29)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Jimmy Hess (Sep 29)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Jo Rhett (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral JC Dill (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Brian Christopher Raaen (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Rob McEwen (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral deleskie (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Kevin Carmical (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Ben Bartsch (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral William Herrin (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Jo Rhett (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Jason Baugher (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Andrew D Kirch (Sep 27)
- Re: guys != gender neutral Ray Van Dolson (Sep 27)