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NXDomain remapping, DNSSEC, Layer 9, and you.


From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:16:47 -0400 (EDT)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Vixie" <vixie () isc org>

*Now*, you see, we no longer have a canonical Good Engineering
Example to
which we can point when yelling at people (and software vendors)
which
*do* permit that, to say "see? You shouldn't be doing that; it's
bad."

"The Web Is Not The Internet."

i see what you mean, and i'm sad that this arrow is no longer in your
quiver. perhaps you can still refer to nlnetlabs unbound for this
purpose.

if i thought there was even one isp anywhere who wanted to use nxdomain
remapping but didn't because bind didn't have that feature, i'd be ready to
argue the point. but all isc did by not supporting this feature was force
some isp's to not use bind, and: isc is not in the "sour grapes"
business.

Well, I disagree on that, but I am not widely travelled, and perhaps
the obvious argument I see wasn't ever actually used.

This is the "do I put cigarette burn preventers on the toilet paper 
dispensers in my 'no smoking' restroom" problem, pretty much exactly.

meanwhile isc continues to push for ubiquitous dnssec, through to the stub,
to take this issue off the table for all people and all time. (that's "the
real fix" for nxdomain remapping.)

You really believe that the outcome of that will be "we can't make some
extra revenue off NXDOMAIN remapping because of DNSSEC?  Well, the hell
with DNSSEC, then"?

Cheers,
-- jra
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