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RE: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why)
From: "Brandt, Ralph" <ralph.brandt () pateam com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 15:04:54 -0400
I wanted to mention one other thing here. In addition to my day job I am a ham radio operator and a IMT COML. I deal with UNDERSTANDABILITY. I sympathize with you on getting bamboozled by the family, have 3 sisters and two daughters. But in the real world of communications 2.3 - 2.5 Khz filters for SSB are the norm, and some guys like it tighter. Let me be frank, spectrum space and hence bandwidth is finite. There is no silver bullet. The FCC mandated narrow banding in VHF is costing public service millions. AT&T pronouncements aside, I have heard them, there will be improvements but not quantum ones. Right now the cell cos are trying to desperately get more spectrum because they know they are about to hit the wall. They already do in places like unHappy Valley (Penn State) at game time when everyone is on the cells. One recent merger/acquisition attempt that failed was for the larger co to get the smaller one's spectrum space. They are looking at some public service spectrum to see if they can offer enough money to get it - most of that money is spent lobbying. Once it goes to cell, it isn't coming back no matter what. The Digital TV was as much about freeing spectrum space to sell it for government income as better TV signals which we didn't need and have cost every person in the US at least $1,000 (new TV's, increased ad costs which increase product prices to pay for the broadcasting equipment) and we didn't get that back for the spectrum space when it was sold. We paid for the industry to upgrade! Ralph Brandt -----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:33 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) On Thu, 03 May 2012 11:01:01 -0400, Jay Ashworth said:
In general, though, intelligibility comes from the higher frequencies, and 3.4kHz is *usually* high enough. What might be the case is that
you'd
have more trouble *distinguishing* amongst women, or between women and children, because the tones necessary for that are more located above
the
cutoff frequency.
I have had more than a few surreal conversations on the phone with my daughter - once the 3.4kHz filter gets done, I can't distinguish her voice from her mom's (and yes, I've gotten social-engineered as a result). Life has gotten simpler since she got old enough to have her own cell phone. ;)
Current thread:
- Re: Operation Ghost Click, (continued)
- Re: Operation Ghost Click Sean Harlow (May 02)
- Re: Operation Ghost Click Jeroen van Aart (May 02)
- Re: Operation Ghost Click Valdis . Kletnieks (May 02)
- Re: Operation Ghost Click Joe Hamelin (May 02)
- Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Jay Ashworth (May 02)
- Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Adam Atkinson (May 02)
- Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Robert Bonomi (May 03)
- Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Jay Ashworth (May 03)
- Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Valdis . Kletnieks (May 03)
- RE: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Brandt, Ralph (May 03)
- RE: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Brandt, Ralph (May 03)
- Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Adam Atkinson (May 03)
- Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Jay Ashworth (May 03)
- Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why) Joel jaeggli (May 03)
- VoIP/Mobile Codecs (was Re: Operation Ghost Click) Sean Harlow (May 02)
- Re: VoIP/Mobile Codecs (was Re: Operation Ghost Click) Jeroen van Aart (May 02)
- RE: VoIP/Mobile Codecs (was Re: Operation Ghost Click) Brandt, Ralph (May 03)
- VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click) Jared Mauch (May 02)
- Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click) William Herrin (May 02)
- Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click) Jared Mauch (May 02)
- Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click) Jeroen van Aart (May 02)