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Re: Cellphones and Audio (was Ghost Click, though I got no idea why)


From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:01:01 -0400 (EDT)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Atkinson" <ghira () mistral co uk>

Jay Ashworth wrote:
Now, those codecs *are* specially tuned for spoken word -- if you
try to stuff music down them, it's not gonna work very well at all...

It was claimed to me many years ago that the 4kHz cutoff used in POTS
serves women and children less well than it does adult males. I have
never been aware that I have any greater problems understanding women
or children on the phone than I do men, but my hearing is not great. I
can't hear the difference between G.711 and G.729, for example, but
some people can.

Googling "PCM adult male voice", "4kHz adult male" and similar isn't
finding me anything. Was I told nonsense?

No, you weren't.  A 4khz channel is generally good from 3-400hz up to about
3.4khz, and if you look at spectrograms of the various categories of voices
you can see the differences, though they're not always as clear cut as you
might expect:

http://www.dplay.com/tutorial/bands/index.html

In general, though, intelligibility comes from the higher frequencies,
and 3.4kHz is *usually* high enough.  What might be the case is that you'd 
have more trouble *distinguishing* amongst women, or between women and 
children, because the tones necessary for that are more located above the
cutoff frequency.

In short: it depends a lot on what you mean by 'serves well'.  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra
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