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Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:58:52 -0400 (EDT)
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From: "Eric Wieling" <EWieling () nyigc com>
Verizon, the copper wireline company, is removing service from locations EVERY TIME VZ fiber is installed in a building. This prevents other companies from providing service by leasing Verizon's copper infrastructure. If there was copper at a location then VZ would be required to resell it and nobody would be locked out.
TTBOMK, whether Verizon has copper to a building has *no bearing at all* on whether a CLEC can place an order for wholesale service to that location; VZN is *required* to provide that wholesale service, at the regulated NRC and MRC rates, whether they currently happen to have the physical facilities in place or not -- are you alleging either that I've misunderstood that, or that VZN is refusing such orders *simply* because they've removed facilities to an address where FiOS has done an install? Cause either of those ought to violate the rules.
We often get customers in buildings lit by Verizon fiber service who want to change carriers. Too bad they can't anymore. Technically they can switch providers. Verizon will remove the fiber, re-install copper, and have the customer down for a week or so.
See above. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274
Current thread:
- Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Joe Maimon (Mar 21)
- RE: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Eric Wieling (Mar 21)
- Re: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Keegan Holley (Mar 21)
- RE: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Eric Wieling (Mar 21)
- Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Michael Thomas (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) John T. Yocum (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Michael Thomas (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 21)
- Re: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Jay Ashworth (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jimmy Hess (Mar 21)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Robert E. Seastrom (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jay Ashworth (Mar 22)
- Re: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) William Herrin (Mar 22)
- RE: Verizon, FiOS, and CLEC/UNE orders (was AT&T diversity) Jamie Bowden (Mar 22)
- RE: Looking for some diversity in Alabama that does not involve ATT Fiber Eric Wieling (Mar 21)