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Re: SP's and v4 block assignments


From: Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:02:45 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

On Mar 15, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Andrew Elliott wrote:

Looking for information on the current standard practices for charging customers
for larger than default v4 assignments.

Especially with the rapidly depleting v4 space, how are SP's handling these
requests?  Is it safe to assume customers requesting larger blocks are willing
to pay a premium?

How much are SP's charging and what are the thresholds?  What are default
allocations based on?  (ie: size of the circuit, type of product, etc...)

Are SP's requiring more strict justification for said assignments?

"Larger than default"?  There are rules about allocating IP space, it has to do with justification, not default sizes.

Charging for them means you are likely a spammer or provider catering to spammers, and lying on your justification 
forms.  Hopefully these types of providers will go away as space gets tighter and justifications are scrutinized more.

You've not been an ISP for too long. Charging for IP space (even justified, not being used for spamming) is pretty common. I don't get involved in sales very often, so I don't know what we charge for them, but I know we do. I don't believe our rates for IPs have changed [yet] in anticipation of IPv4 runout. Our standard IPv4 assignment for dedi/colo single servers has been /28. For cloud, it's /32. Anything more adds to the MRC. I can see the former shrinking soon to /29 or /30 unless the customer demands more.

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