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Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,
From: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer () hezmatt org>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:54:14 +1000
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:31:07AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
Yes they are -- content providers aren't getting their connections to the Internet for free (and if they are, how can I get me some of that?).Maybe I wasn't clear. Traffic is moving away from "transit" to direct peering at private exchanges in many cases. [Citation needed]
If the ISPs are directly peering with the content provider at some IX, the content provider gets what amounts to a free ride totheend user.Say wha? ISPs don't *have* to peer at an IX; if they think that it's cheaper to buy transit from someone than it is to peer, they're more than capable of doing so.Transit would have to get extremely cheap to compete with exchange peering. I don't see it getting that low any time soon.
So it *is* cheaper to peer than to buy transit. Take the money you save from not buying transit and put it towards upgrading your core. - Matt -- Generally the folk who love the environment in vague, frilly ways are at odds with folk who love the environment next to the mashed potatoes. -- Anthony de Boer, in a place that does not exist
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- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,, (continued)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, William Herrin (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Owen DeLong (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Justin Horstman (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, William Herrin (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Nathan Eisenberg (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joel Jaeggli (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Matthew Palmer (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joe Greco (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Matthew Palmer (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Dobbins, Roland (Sep 20)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, William Herrin (Sep 20)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, George Bonser (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Joe Greco (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Jack Bates (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Marshall Eubanks (Sep 21)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Jack Bates (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? George Bonser (Sep 16)
- Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? Chris Woodfield (Sep 16)
- RE: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid, Prioritized Traffic? George Bonser (Sep 16)