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Re: ISP port blocking practice
From: Randy Bush <randy () psg com>
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:30:04 +0900
The theory behind closing open relays, blocking port 25, etc., seems to be: (a) That will make it harder on spammers, and that will reduce spam -- some of the spammers will find other other ways to inject spam, but some will just stop, OR (b) Eventually, we'll find technical solutions to *all* the ways spam is injected, and then there will be no more spam. There's little evidence for either.
the empirical evicence seems to support this theory. spam has continually increased, wich occasional dips when the spammers have to find a new path when an old one is covered. i suspect that, if we opened smtp relays again, unblocked 25 for consumer chokeband, etc., total spam received would likely increase a bit. but my guess, and i mean guess, is that the limiting parameter could well be how many bots the perps can get, not how well those bots are blocked. but, let's look at the upside. with the dying economy, the spam war provides employment for many of our friends. randy
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- Re: ISP port blocking practice, (continued)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Paul Ferguson (Sep 05)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Jon Lewis (Sep 05)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Owen DeLong (Sep 05)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Franck Martin (Sep 05)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Jon Auer (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Scott Howard (Sep 11)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Brett Frankenberger (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice deleskie (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Brett Frankenberger (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Randy Bush (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Randy Bush (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 06)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Randy Bush (Sep 07)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice John Levine (Sep 09)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Owen DeLong (Sep 05)
- RE: ISP port blocking practice Brian Johnson (Sep 13)
- Re: RE: ISP port blocking practice Joshua William Klubi (Sep 13)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Franck Martin (Sep 02)
- Re: ISP port blocking practice Owen DeLong (Sep 03)