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Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:11:33 -0800
On Nov 29, 2010, at 10:58 PM, George Bonser wrote:
I'd be willing to pay ~$250/month for global unlimited voice/data and my usage would not increase very much above what you're already providing). I also happen to know that I'm not the only consumer that would very much like to be able to purchase this kind of service. OwenSo would I. I make a fair amount of international calls/month but not very many (say less than a dozen in a normal month and that might increase to 20 if I had such a plan). Thing is that when I do, they are often conference calls that last a while. The problem with "unlimited" is the 85/15 problem where 15% of your users are responsible for 85% of your traffic.
That's only a problem if it's always the same 15% of users and the other 85% don't see a value proposition to the rate they are paying. Also, I don't care if it's unlimited international -> international calling, mainly I want unlimited international data roaming and the ability to receive and make calls wherever<->US.
Give someone unlimited international and you are going to get a bunch of people such as foreign students who will be chatting with their friends back home all day. The issue with terminating international calls is that often the terminating telecom monopoly charges the initiating telco per minute for the call.
Today this can be overcome with rational VOIP delivery options that can make the call termination local in the receiving country with the internet covering the international legs. Sure, it messes with Caller ID, but, in my experience, international caller ID on cellular is, well, unreliable at best anyway, so, I'm not seeing a problem.
Unlimited mobile to mobile might be an option in some countries, though. Calling landlines in foreign countries doesn't scale when "unlimited" is in the equation.
Like I said, I'm not so worried about calling foreign landlines unlimited, but, I want to be able to call the US from wherever I am, get calls on my phone wherever I am, and, use data services wherever I am. For that, I'm willing to pay $250/month. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions, (continued)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Joly MacFie (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Jared Mauch (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Andrew Koch (Nov 29)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions George Bonser (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Christopher Morrow (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Jeffrey Lyon (Nov 29)
- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions George Bonser (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement ConcerningComcast'sActions Owen DeLong (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Cameron Byrne (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions William Herrin (Nov 29)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions William Warren (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions William Herrin (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Brielle Bruns (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Owen DeLong (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Jeffrey Lyon (Nov 30)
- Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions William Herrin (Nov 30)
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- RE: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions Rettke, Brian (Nov 30)