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Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:44:10 -0800
There are huge differences in LNP/WLNP vs. Email Address portability. Prior to LNP/WLNP, there was already SS7 which is, essentially a centralized layer of indirection for phone numbers. This was necessary in order to support multiple LECs serving the same NPA-NXX anyway. Once that was in place, LNP/WLNP was almost a no-brainer from a call routing perspective. The issue was with the administrative process and the level of ethics exhibited by some of the phone-company participants (slamming, etc.). We saw the same thing in DNS. LNP is much more like domain name portability than email address portability. We already have domain name portability and had it long before LNP/WLNP. The owner of a domain has always been able to change the NS records pointing to the authoritative DNS servers for said domain. If users care about email portability, they should simply get their own domain and move the domain around as they see fit. Given google and other email hosting providers which will trivially host your email domain and the low annual cost of registering a domain, I'm not sure why legislators would think doing it differently is a good idea. If I were an Israeli ISP and this law were to pass, I'd simply discontinue providing email service for my customers and suggest they get their email via Google, Yahoo, or other free email service. Owen On Feb 22, 2010, at 8:26 AM, Dorn Hetzel wrote:
I am sure the various carriers faced with the onset of Local Number Portability and WLNP in this part of the world would have been happy to escape with only forwarding phone calls for 3 months. Alas, such was not their fate :) I would watch out for this idea, it might actually catch on in various places, warts and all... On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Robert Brockway <robert () timetraveller org>wrote:On Mon, 22 Feb 2010, James Jones wrote: Why does this seem like a really bad idea?While I think the principal is noble there are operational problems: 1) Large and increasing quantity of email will be forwarded between Israeli ISPs, loading their networks with traffic that could have been avoided. 2) Every time someone changes ISP and wants to continue using this address they will need to notify their original ISP, who they may not have had a business relationship with for many years. This will be a significant operational challenge I expect. How do you confirm the person notifying you is the real owner of the address, for example? IMHO it would have been better to require the ISPs to forward the email for a reasonable period of time (say 3 months) to allow the user to make relevant notifications (or just stop using an ISP bound email address). Unfortunately the links cited are in Hebrew so I'm only going on Gadi's report here. Cheers, Rob -- Email: robert () timetraveller org IRC: Solver Web: http://www.practicalsysadmin.com I tried to change the world but they had a no-return policy
Current thread:
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee, (continued)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Owen DeLong (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Shane Ronan (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Michael Dillon (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Barry Shein (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Eric Brunner-Williams (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Jeff Kell (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee gordon b slater (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Larry Sheldon (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Rob Pickering (Feb 23)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Dorn Hetzel (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Owen DeLong (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Suresh Ramasubramanian (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Larry Sheldon (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Dave CROCKER (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Fred Baker (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Robert Brockway (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Hank Nussbacher (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Joel Jaeggli (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Richard Barnes (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee James Jones (Feb 22)
- Re: Email Portability Approved by Knesset Committee Cian Brennan (Feb 22)