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Re: Lightly used IP addresses
From: Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:10:56 -0600
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 21:32, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
when the 'community' is defined as those policy wannabes who do the flying, take the cruise junkets, ... this is a self-perpetuating steaming load that is not gonna change.
Yes, those definitions create a steaming load. But why is it that the folks actually participating in making policy are "wannabes" in your definition? I suggest the true definition of "community" includes at least *all* of the non-AC-member participants in the ARIN policy process; the folks who subscribe to the PPML and show up at meetings (or participate remotely at a greatly reduced cost but nearly equal voice). There are 15 AC members and around 150 participants at each meeting... That means that _most_ are *not* being funded by ARIN. For those who claim the system to not be open, I humbly provide myself as a test case. I am not one of the "good old boys" of ARIN (if there is such a thing) and I have never had ARIN pay my way to a meeting (or for a cruise junket). In fact I am far too young and inexperienced to possibly qualify as any kind of ruling elite who is handing down decrees from above. I have however contributed to the formation of several policies in the ARIN region and to the crafting of several others currently under discussion, one on a global level amongst all 5 RIRs. I attended a meeting, joined the mailing list and spoke up. Simple as that. I highly encourage everyone who has an opinion on Internet numbering policy to do the same. Cheers, ~Chris
one start would be for arin to have the guts not to pay travel expenses of non-employees/contractors. randy
-- @ChrisGrundemann weblog.chrisgrundemann.com www.burningwiththebush.com www.coisoc.org
Current thread:
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses, (continued)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Owen DeLong (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Chris Grundemann (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- participation in process (Re: Lightly used IP addresses) Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 14)
- Re: participation in process (Re: Lightly used IP addresses) Owen DeLong (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Patrick Giagnocavo (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses William Herrin (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Owen DeLong (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses William Herrin (Aug 15)
- Routers in Space (was: Lightly used IP addresses) Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)