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Re: Lightly used IP addresses
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:20:26 -0400
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
ARIN fees and budget are a member concern, not a public concern.
Oh really? The money ARIN spends managing the public's IP addresses (and how it collects that money and the privileges conferred on the folks from whom it's collected) are not a matter of public concern? I seem to recall that attitude was how ICANN first started to get in to trouble.
Unfortunately, the LRSA contains another price which I personally consider too high: voluntary termination revokes the IP addresses instead of restoring the pre-contract status quo. Without that balancing check to the contract, I think a steady creep in what ARIN requires of the signatory is inevitable... and the affirmative actions ARIN can require the registrant to perform in order to maintain the contract are nearly unlimited.I believe the LRSA limits them primarily to the annual fee payment.
Do you now. Unfortunately, the plain language of the LRSA does not respect your belief. ARIN makes only two promises about the application of existing and new ARIN policies to LRSA signatories: "ARIN will take no action to reduce the services provided for Included Number Resources _that are not currently being utilized_ by the Legacy Applicant." (10.b) and "fee shall be $100 per year until the year 2013; no increase per year greater than $25." (6.b) Except for those exclusions, the LRSA includes "the Policies which are hereby incorporated by reference" (15.d). Those policies are "binding upon Legacy Applicant immediately after they are posted on the Website" (7). In other words, if the ARIN board adopts a policy that legacy registrants must install some of their addresses on a router on the moon (or perhaps some requirement that's a little less extreme) then failing to is cause for terminating the contract (14.b). Which revokes the IP addresses (14.e.i). Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside comĀ bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses, (continued)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Owen DeLong (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Chris Grundemann (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- participation in process (Re: Lightly used IP addresses) Mikael Abrahamsson (Aug 14)
- Re: participation in process (Re: Lightly used IP addresses) Owen DeLong (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Patrick Giagnocavo (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses William Herrin (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Owen DeLong (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses William Herrin (Aug 15)
- Routers in Space (was: Lightly used IP addresses) Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Owen DeLong (Aug 15)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Jeffrey Lyon (Aug 15)