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Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster
From: Kenny Sallee <kenny.sallee () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:05:11 -0700
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Nathan Eisenberg <nathan () atlasnetworks us>wrote:
Maybe the ISP's should move this choice to the consumer.The consumer already has this option on many SOHO firewalls. No action by ISPs is required. But this is totally irrelevant to the idea of Net Neutrality.
Yes - but you can only traffic shape / prioritize so much after the data has reached your end of a circuit / connection. So yes those SOHO devices do it - but if you look on the wire - you'll see more actual bandwidth making it across then you are expecting. The SOHO devices are just buffering / dropping stuff / manipulating TCP flows to slow unimportant stuff down. It's a better solution to do this on the provider side
I view this exercise as paying for priority when the circuit is full --like a special carpool lane. Carrier circuits should never be 'full', unless your definition of 'full' is 50-70%, IMHO. 100% full is a failure of engineering, business planning, and monitoring. Priority shouldn't be required.
True - but we are not talking about carrier circuits in the core. Agree with your statements regarding core carrier circuits. We are talking about the 'last mile' DSL/Cable/Fiber connection into your house. My bandwidth is pegged everytime I download a new version of Linux from bittorrent. During that time - my VoIP and Netflix have issues.
Best Regards, Nathan Eisenberg
Current thread:
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster, (continued)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Kevin Oberman (Aug 10)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Matthew Palmer (Aug 09)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Christopher Morrow (Aug 09)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Sean Donelan (Aug 10)
- RE: Google wants your Internet to be faster Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 10)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Kenny Sallee (Aug 10)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Mike Sabbota (Aug 10)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Christopher Morrow (Aug 10)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Kenny Sallee (Aug 10)
- RE: Google wants your Internet to be faster Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 10)
- Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster Kenny Sallee (Aug 10)