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Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster


From: Kenny Sallee <kenny.sallee () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:05:11 -0700

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Nathan Eisenberg
<nathan () atlasnetworks us>wrote:

Maybe the ISP's should move this choice to the consumer.

The consumer already has this option on many SOHO firewalls.  No action by
ISPs is required.  But this is totally irrelevant to the idea of Net
Neutrality.


Yes - but you can only traffic shape / prioritize so much after the data has
reached your end of a circuit / connection.  So yes those SOHO devices do it
- but if you look on the wire - you'll see more actual bandwidth making it
across then you are expecting.  The SOHO devices are just buffering /
dropping stuff / manipulating TCP flows to slow unimportant stuff down.
 It's a better solution to do this on the provider side



I view this exercise as paying for priority when the circuit is full --
like a special carpool lane.

Carrier circuits should never be 'full', unless your definition of 'full'
is 50-70%, IMHO.  100% full is a failure of engineering, business planning,
and monitoring.  Priority shouldn't be required.


True - but we are not talking about carrier circuits in the core.  Agree
with your statements regarding core carrier circuits.  We are talking about
the 'last mile' DSL/Cable/Fiber connection into your house.  My bandwidth is
pegged everytime I download a new version of Linux from bittorrent.  During
that time - my VoIP and Netflix have issues.


Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg




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