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Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster


From: Mike Sabbota <mike () sabbota com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:02:30 -0600

I don't see providers ever pushing it that far down the stream. Would you be
willing to pay more for your consumer connection to maintain those types of
features? Business connections, absolutely.

It's really about controlling bandwidth on the shared link, not your
individual home connection.  So for connectivity feeding a neighborhood or
apartment building the question arises do you allow multiple users to use
all of the bandwidth for P2P and crowd out your Netflix traffic?  The
question is should Netflix have to pay more to ensure quality service to
their streaming subscribers?

I view this exercise as paying for priority when the circuit is full -- like
a special carpool lane.  It's not like the provider will randomly send  you
traffic you don't want.  If Netflix sucks do you blame your provider or
Netflix? In the end, do you switch providers or cancel Netflix?  My guess is
most consumers will cancel Netflix before they switch their Internet
provider.

Not saying that this can't be abused by providers not having in enough
capacity and content companies bidding to be most important on the circuit.

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Kenny Sallee <kenny.sallee () gmail com>wrote:

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Nathan Eisenberg
<nathan () atlasnetworks us>wrote:

Is there a performance difference between the Internet and Internet2?
Should that be allowed, or must all IP networks have the same
performance?

I think that statement may confuse metrics like performance and capacity,
with the action of intentionally QOS'ing Netflix over Youtube over the
same
uplink.  One is a reality, and one offers disturbing possibilities.

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg



Maybe the ISP's should move this choice to the consumer.  The last mile is
'usually' where congestion really hits.  Why not build a portal for
consumers to go in an choose what's important to them?  I know some MPLS
VPN
providers do something similar (have a portal businesses can use to view
and
modify QoS settings).  I'd love to be able to prioritize Netflix over
youtube or bittorrent or whatever games my kids are playing since I mainly
use Netflix to watch movies.  But I wouldn't like the big guys dictating
what is important to me.



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