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Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN
From: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:24:03 -0700
Tony, On Oct 22, 2009, at 12:41 PM, Tony Hain wrote:
The root of the argument I see in this entire thread is the assumption that 'what we have for IPv4 has *always* been there'.
Well, no. My reading is "what we have for IPv4 works, scales well, we're accustomed to it, and our provisioning systems are all built around it'.
There is lots of finger pointing at the IETF for failure to define 15 years ago, what we have evolved as the every-day assumptions about the IPv4 network of today.
Well, no. My reading is that there is finger pointing at the IETF for ignoring and/or denying what network operators are specifying.
The real issue here is that some people are so locked into one approach that they refuse to even consider that there might be an alternative way to achieve the same goal, or that the actual goal will change over time in the face of external requirements.
Actually, I think the issue is that there are folks who are running real, live businesses who don't really have the time (or interest) to experiment with alternative ways of doing things. They're getting pressure to deploy new stuff and are looking for technologies that are the quickest, easiest, requires the least retraining, retooling, redeployment, etc. They then get folks (most of which do not run real, live non-trivial networks) who say "use this new shiny toy!" and block efforts to hack the existing tools. It's that last bit that's the problem. But then again, I'm just guessing since I don't run a real, live non-trivial network... Regards, -drc
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN bmanning (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Nick Hilliard (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN sthaug (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Mohacsi Janos (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Karl Auer (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Mark Smith (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Owen DeLong (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Kevin Loch (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN David Conrad (Oct 22)
- RE: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Tony Hain (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN David Conrad (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Iljitsch van Beijnum (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Adrian Chadd (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Owen DeLong (Oct 22)
- Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN sthaug (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Ray Soucy (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Leo Bicknell (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Ray Soucy (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Leo Bicknell (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Ray Soucy (Oct 22)
- Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN Chuck Anderson (Oct 22)