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Re: {SPAM?} Re: IPv6 Deployment for the LAN


From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:29:30 -0700

In a message written on Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 03:23:13PM -0400, Ray Soucy wrote:
If the argument against RA being used to provide gateway information
is "rogue RA," then announcing gateway information though the use of
DHCPv6 doesn't solve anything.  Sure you'll get around rogue RA, but
you'll still have to deal with rogue DHCPv6.  So what is gained?

It's a huge difference, and any conference network shows it.

Let's assume 400 people come into a room, get up and working (with
DHCPv4, and IPv6 RA's).  

Someone now introduces a rogue IPv4 server.  Who breaks?  Anyone who
requests a new lease.  That is 400 people keep working just fine.

Now, someone introduces a roge RA.  Who breaks?  All 400 users are
instantly down.

More importantly, there is another class of misconfigured device.  I
plugged in a Cisco router to download new code to it on our office
network.  It had a DHCP forward statement, and IPv6.  It was from
another site.

The DHCP forward didn't work, it pointed to something non-existant that
also was never configured for the local subnet.  There was zero chance
of IPv4 interfearance.

The IPv6 network picked up the RA to a router with no routes though, and
so simply plugging in the old router took down the entire office
network.

The operational threats of a DHCP based network and a RA based network
are quite different.  Try it on your own network.

-- 
       Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440
        PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/

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