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RE: ISP customer assignments
From: "TJ" <trejrco () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 20:46:10 -0400
-----Original Message----- From: Robert.E.VanOrmer () frb gov [mailto:Robert.E.VanOrmer () frb gov] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:41 PM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: ISP customer assignments The address space is daunting in scale as you have noted, but I don't see
any
lessons learned in address allocation between IPv6 and IPv4. Consider as a residential customer, I will be provided a /64, which means each individual
on
Earth will have roughly 1 billion addresses each.
Nope. You should get a ~/56. Even so, a /64 gives you ~18BillionBillion addresses.
Organizations will be provided /48s or smaller, but given the current
issues
with routing /48's globally, I think you will find more organizations
fighting
for /32s or smaller... so what once was a astonomical number of addresses
that
one cannot concieve numerically, soon becomes much smaller. I can see an
IPv7 Nope, organizations will go for PI ~/48s, and Verizon will be forced to stop filtering them. Oh, and IIRC - as it stands now, IPv7-9 are already shot (similar to IPv1-3) ... so IPv10 would be next up, in a century ... or four.
in the future, and doing it all over again... I just hope I retire before
it
comes... The only difference I can see between IPv4 and IPv6 is how much of
a Are you retiring in the next 0-3 years? :)
pain it is to type a 128 bit address... Just like back in the day when
Class B
networks were handed out like candy, one day we will be figuring out how to
put
in emergency allocations on the ARIN listserv for IPv6 because of address exhaustion and waste.
As for the lessons learned - it is about scale. 32 bits isn't enough, double it 96 more times (or 32 more times for just the network side, if you prefer) and it is enough. /TJ
Current thread:
- Re: ISP customer assignments, (continued)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Mark Andrews (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Nathan Ward (Oct 14)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Mark Andrews (Oct 14)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Dan White (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Justin Shore (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Dan White (Oct 13)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Justin Shore (Oct 13)
- RE: ISP customer assignments Frank Bulk (Oct 14)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Dan White (Oct 15)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Bjørn Mork (Oct 06)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Tim Durack (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments joel jaeggli (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Seth Mattinen (Oct 05)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Owen DeLong (Oct 06)
- Re: ISP customer assignments Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 06)