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Re: Cogent input
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:18:25 -0400
In a message written on Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:13:02AM -0500, Justin Shore wrote:
Let me rephrase that. :-) I know of no tier-Ns that offer any native v6 services here in the Midwest (central Kansas) including L3 which only has a best effort pilot program using tunnels. There might be more options in KC or OKC but not here that I'm aware of...
www.tunnelbroker.net (which is HE under the hood) is available anywhere, self serve, and works great. I bring this up knowing a tunnel is not as good as native connectivity, yadda yadda yadda. My personal experience with sales folks is telling them you need IPv6 makes them go ask questions internally, while telling them you were forced to get service (a tunnel) from a competitor generally sends the entire sales force into a tizzy internally. It really drives home the point that not only are you asking, but you need it, and will go around them if necessary. This changes the equasion for them from wanting to be second (we will offer it in the market when our competitor does) to wanting to be first (we can't let our competitor pick off customers like this who are desperate for the feature). Of course, you may not want to turn up customers on such a service, but it does provide an excellent opportunity to enable your test lab, employee personal boxes, and the like so you can hit the ground running. Hard to beat for something that's free and takes 15 minutes to set up. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: Cogent input kris foster (Jun 16)
- Re: Cogent input Richard A Steenbergen (Jun 16)
- Re: Cogent input David Temkin (Jun 17)
- Re: Cogent input Tore Anderson (Jun 11)
- Re: Cogent input Justin Shore (Jun 11)
- Re: Cogent input Paul Timmins (Jun 11)
- RE: Cogent input John van Oppen (Jun 11)
- Re: Cogent input Tore Anderson (Jun 11)
- Re: Cogent input sthaug (Jun 11)
- Re: Cogent input Justin Shore (Jun 12)
- Re: Cogent input Leo Bicknell (Jun 12)
- Re: Cogent input Kevin Hodle (Jun 17)
- Re: Cogent input L K (Jun 18)
- Re: Cogent input German Martinez (Jun 14)
- IPv6 transits (Was: Cogent input) Jeroen Massar (Jun 14)
- Re: IPv6 transits (Was: Cogent input) Robert Blayzor (Jun 18)
- Re: IPv6 transits (Was: Cogent input) Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom (Jun 18)
- Re: IPv6 transits sthaug (Jun 18)
- Re: IPv6 transits Tomas Caslavsky (Jun 18)
- Re: Cogent input Justin Shore (Jun 12)
- Re: Cogent input Seth Mattinen (Jun 16)