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Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space


From: Mark Newton <newton () internode com au>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:28:47 +1030


On 10/02/2009, at 10:17 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:

Sure, but at the end of the day a non-NAT firewall is just a special case
of NAT firewall where the "inside" and "outside" addresses happen to
be the same.

Uh, that's a pretty twisted view.  I would say that NAT is a special
additional capability of the firewall which mangles the address(es)
in the packet.  I would not regard passing the address unmangled
as a "special case" of mangling.

You're passing a value judgement on NAT, using loaded terms like "mangling"
and "twisted".

Fine, you don't like rewriting L3 addresses and L4 port numbers.  Yep,
I get that.  Relevance?

In terms of implementing the code, sure, the result is about the same,
but, the key point here is that there really isn't a benefit to having that
packet mangling code in IPv6.

There is if you have a dual-stack device, your L4-and-above protocols
are the same under v4 and v6, and you don't want to reinvent the ALG wheel.

  - mark

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