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Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell () ufp org>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:58:00 -0400
In a message written on Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:47:01AM -0400, Paul Timmins wrote:
Seems like a good idea to the technical side of me, but the business side sees a problem: that the employees like to eat in the 33 year span wherein the company isn't making a dime on its customers.
The last letter of ROI is Investment. When Ford decides to build a new car it sinks in billions of dollars over a 5 year period where it makes nothing. It then starts selling the new model, and finally reaches a point where it makes a profit, and uses that to find the next Investment. What Telecom companies have done is confused infrastructure and equipment. It would be stupid to plan on making a profit on your GSR over 30 years, after 10 it will be functionally obsolete. When it comes to equipment the idea of 1-3 year ROI's makes sense. However, when it comes to fiber or copper in the ground or on a pole it has a 20, 30, 40, or even 50 year life span. To require those assets to have a 1-3 year ROI is absurd. I remember when Cable TV was "new". I lived in a neighborhood without it, and the men with ditch wiches came through and wired the entire neighborhood. I don't think it had an ROI of a year, or even 5, but it has now, 30 years later, spawned a multi-billion dollar industry and allowed us to have things like Cable Internet, which weren't even invented at the time. Someone loaned them the money to do it, and it appears to me the investment performed well, overall. -- Leo Bicknell - bicknell () ufp org - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
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- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband, (continued)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Richard Bennett (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Marshall Eubanks (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Eric Brunner-Williams (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Eric Brunner-Williams (Aug 26)
- RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Richard Bennett (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Robert Enger - NANOG (Aug 26)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Alexander Harrowell (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Leo Bicknell (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Marshall Eubanks (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Paul Timmins (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Leo Bicknell (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband JC Dill (Aug 27)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Jack Bates (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Joe Greco (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Jack Bates (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Leo Bicknell (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Jack Bates (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Leo Bicknell (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Peter Beckman (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Joe Abley (Aug 28)
- Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Peter Beckman (Aug 28)
- RE: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband Richard Bennett (Aug 26)