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Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband


From: Marshall Eubanks <tme () americafree tv>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:11:39 -0400


On Aug 27, 2009, at 11:11 PM, Richard Bennett wrote:

The background issue is whether satellite-based systems at around 200 Kb/s and high latency can be defined as "broadband." Since everyone in America - including the Alaskans - has access to satellite services, defining that level of service as broadband makes the rest of the exercise academic: everyone is "served." There's no economic argument for government subsidies to multiple firms in a market, of course.

It seems to me that there has to be an element of what can be the hardest thing to obtain in Government, judgement.

If I lived on Attu Island in the Aleutians, I would probably consider a 200 Kb/s satellite link as broadband.

Where I live in Northern Virginia, I would not.

If there isn't some form of judgement about what is suitable and possible in a given area, the results are not likely to be good.

Regards
Marshall



It's more interesting considering that DirecTV is about to launch a new satellite with a couple orders of magnitude more capacity than the existing ones offer. I seem to recall their claiming that the service would then improved to some respectable number of megabits/ sec. Satellite ISPs locate their ground stations in IXP-friendly locations, so there aren't any worries about backhaul or fiber access costs.

But to your actual question, "under-served" is of course quite subjective and cost is clearly part of it.

RB

Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:
As one of the workshops discussed, does the definition of "underserved" and
"unserved" include the clause "for a reasonable price"?
If the price is unreasonable, do you think its government money well-spent to subsidize bringing a competitor to a market that couldn't make it before?
Or are there perhaps other ways to deal with that pricing issue?

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: William Herrin [mailto:herrin-nanog () dirtside com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 4:46 PM
To: Fred Baker
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband

<snip>

Really where they need the swift kick in the tail is in the product
tying where you can't buy a high speed connection to J. Random ISP,
you can only buy a high speed connection to monopoly provider's
in-house ISP. Which means you can only get commodity service since
monopoly provider isn't in the business of providing low-dollar custom
solutions. But it sounds like that's outside the scope of what
Congress has approved.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



--
Richard Bennett
Research Fellow
Information Technology and Innovation Foundation
Washington, DC






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