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RE: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb () byrneit net>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:17:36 -0700
Welcome the Internet version of "Too big to fail". I like the corollary: If it's too big to fail, it's too big, and needs to be broken up. Otherwise, we get an oligarchy,
-----Original Message----- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:sethm () rollernet us] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:27 AM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Lamar Owen wrote:On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:34:22 Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch wrote:At the end of the day, nobody is going to drop packetsfor amazon'sIP space.I'm afraid reality disagrees with you - there already are networks doing it.Indeed. Google's e-mail servers get on the various DNSBL'sfrequently. I occasionally get in to an argument with a customer who is trying to get mail from someone after a spam run came out of a google mail server and landed it on a DNSBL. The argument presented to me always boils down to "Google could never do anything wrong" or "Google is too big to do anything wrong" and I should immediately stop recommending any DNSBL that would dare to block Google. ~Seth
Current thread:
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream, (continued)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Christopher Morrow (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Christian Koch (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream David Ulevitch (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Lamar Owen (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Seth Mattinen (Sep 17)
- RE: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream David Schwartz (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Seth Mattinen (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Lamar Owen (Sep 17)
- RE: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Tomas L. Byrnes (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream David Ulevitch (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 18)
- Seattle Peering Paul Stewart (Sep 18)
- Re: Seattle Peering Michael K. Smith (Sep 18)
- Re: Seattle Peering Chris Caputo (Sep 23)
- RE: Seattle Peering Paul Stewart (Sep 23)
- RE: Seattle Peering Chris Caputo (Sep 23)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Christopher Morrow (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Steve Gibbard (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Andy Davidson (Sep 18)