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Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream
From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:41:23 -0400
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch <davidu () everydns net> wrote:
Christopher Morrow wrote:How about providing some open-source intelligence in a centralized and machine-parsable fashion (perhaps with community input of intel even) which would allow better decsions to be made?Reputation based on src_addr is /so/ 2005. ASN has a few more legs perhaps... but... All the growth in Internet-connected compute clouds (EC2, AppNexus, GoGrid, etc.) makes any system based around IP reputation decidedly less useful.
there is more than 'srcip' you can use to judge reputation on... if you have something 'not a router' you can even implement other options... Adding things like ttl's to the entries, sliding the reputation on that as well. It's not just 'src ip'. ASN is a really big hammer....
At the end of the day, nobody is going to drop packets for amazon's IP space.
nope, but amazon can/may-be-able-to do some protections on their side, or individuals could choose to block bits/pieces of amazon, and they have already.
-David
Current thread:
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream, (continued)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Lamar Owen (Sep 17)
- RE: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Tomas L. Byrnes (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream David Ulevitch (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Patrick W. Gilmore (Sep 18)
- Seattle Peering Paul Stewart (Sep 18)
- Re: Seattle Peering Michael K. Smith (Sep 18)
- Re: Seattle Peering Chris Caputo (Sep 23)
- RE: Seattle Peering Paul Stewart (Sep 23)
- RE: Seattle Peering Chris Caputo (Sep 23)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Christopher Morrow (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Steve Gibbard (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Andy Davidson (Sep 18)
- Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeered at 2:25am est James Thomas (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Gadi Evron (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Christopher Morrow (Sep 17)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Suresh Ramasubramanian (Sep 18)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream Christopher Morrow (Sep 17)